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Meeting topic or discussion ideas.....?
Randall Shimizu
2018-06-11 14:00:30 UTC
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Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
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Tracy Reed
2018-06-11 22:20:38 UTC
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Nope. I sent out a call for presenters or ideas. Heard nothing but
crickets.
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
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Tony Su
2018-06-13 11:49:25 UTC
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I don't expect to be out of town during the July meeting so can do a
presentation.

Since openSUSE LEAP 15 was just released, I can present on openSUSE in
general and include what is new. Since openSUSE is one of the distros
that introduces features sooner than most other distros, a lot of what
is new in openSUSE will be seen in other distros later.

The talk should be of interest to anyone from the person transitioning
from MSWindows to seasoned Users doing somewhat ordinary things to
people pushing the limits using bleeding edge tools. openSUSE supports
all of that starting from the default install and adding repos for
access to special technologies and versions of.

If I present on openSUSE,
I'd encourage anyone to message me any special requests... I've done
several like this on openSUSE over the years and special requests
helps me make them varied.

Some of the stuff I can talk about is in my openSUSE Wiki (a
collection of stuff I've run into over the years, a few are obsolete
and need updating but most current across multiple openSUSE versions)

https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2

Tony
Post by Tracy Reed
Nope. I sent out a call for presenters or ideas. Heard nothing but
crickets.
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
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Randall Shimizu
2018-06-13 12:25:11 UTC
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I would like to see a history of OpenSuse and what has been happening
with OpenSuse for the past few years.
Post by Tony Su
I don't expect to be out of town during the July meeting so can do a
presentation.
Since openSUSE LEAP 15 was just released, I can present on openSUSE in
general and include what is new. Since openSUSE is one of the distros
that introduces features sooner than most other distros, a lot of what
is new in openSUSE will be seen in other distros later.
The talk should be of interest to anyone from the person transitioning
from MSWindows to seasoned Users doing somewhat ordinary things to
people pushing the limits using bleeding edge tools. openSUSE supports
all of that starting from the default install and adding repos for
access to special technologies and versions of.
If I present on openSUSE,
I'd encourage anyone to message me any special requests... I've done
several like this on openSUSE over the years and special requests
helps me make them varied.
Some of the stuff I can talk about is in my openSUSE Wiki (a
collection of stuff I've run into over the years, a few are obsolete
and need updating but most current across multiple openSUSE versions)
https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2
Tony
Post by Tracy Reed
Nope. I sent out a call for presenters or ideas. Heard nothing but
crickets.
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
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Tony Su
2018-06-18 19:27:16 UTC
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A history?
:)

Well, there's a bit of a story as the distro has undergone some basic
architectural changes.
And, the versioning numbers is something people ask about...

13.2 > 42.1 > 42.2 > 52.3 > 15

Tony

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Randall Shimizu
Post by Randall Shimizu
I would like to see a history of OpenSuse and what has been happening
with OpenSuse for the past few years.
Post by Tony Su
I don't expect to be out of town during the July meeting so can do a
presentation.
Since openSUSE LEAP 15 was just released, I can present on openSUSE in
general and include what is new. Since openSUSE is one of the distros
that introduces features sooner than most other distros, a lot of what
is new in openSUSE will be seen in other distros later.
The talk should be of interest to anyone from the person transitioning
from MSWindows to seasoned Users doing somewhat ordinary things to
people pushing the limits using bleeding edge tools. openSUSE supports
all of that starting from the default install and adding repos for
access to special technologies and versions of.
If I present on openSUSE,
I'd encourage anyone to message me any special requests... I've done
several like this on openSUSE over the years and special requests
helps me make them varied.
Some of the stuff I can talk about is in my openSUSE Wiki (a
collection of stuff I've run into over the years, a few are obsolete
and need updating but most current across multiple openSUSE versions)
https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2
Tony
Post by Tracy Reed
Nope. I sent out a call for presenters or ideas. Heard nothing but
crickets.
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
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Gus Wirth
2018-06-18 21:21:08 UTC
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Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
There wasn't a meeting topic planned, so the meeting started out with
people just mingling and having several different conversations about
different aspects of running Linux.

Around 7:30pm I decided to break out my laptop and do an impromptu
presentation on what's going on in your computer looking mostly at hardware.

I started by showing the output of dmesg, scrolling through and pointing
out various items like ACPI, memory, and hard drives (sda, sdb, etc).

I then showed using dmesg to watch for system activities using -w option:

$ dmesg -w

which is what I call watch, but the man page calls "Wait for new messages".

I then showed what happens when you plug/unplug a mouse and a USB flash
drive. I pointed out that users should be familiar with normal output so
they they can recognize when something abnormal happens.

From there I showed the output of lspci -v which will show the devices
connected to the PCI(e) bus and the kernel module responsible for
driving that piece of hardware.

Using the information from the lspci output, we looked at the kernel
module for the video device (Intel integrated graphics) using modinfo:

$ modinfo i915

We skimmed over the different parameters the module can have when loaded.

I showed that udev can automatically load kernel modules by removing the
uas module with rmmod, showing that it was really gone with lsmod, then
plugging in a flash drive and showing that the uas module was loaded.

Finally I showed the output of lsusb, which lists USB devices and their
drivers in a manner similar the lspci.

I didn't get to talking about /proc or /sys which could be a discussion
for another day. Although I did show the output of cpuinfo:

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

For kernels with the Meltdown/Specter mitigation's the bugs for the CPU
will be listed.

I wrapped up around 9:45 pm, which surprised me since it wasn't a
planned presentation. We had a number of new people show up, I think all
of them found us on Meetup.

Gus
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Tracy Reed
2018-06-18 21:38:51 UTC
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Thanks for stepping up in a pinch, Gus! I've heard from a couple of
people who said it went very well.

So...anyone interested in putting together a scheduled presentation for
next month?
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
There wasn't a meeting topic planned, so the meeting started out with people
just mingling and having several different conversations about different
aspects of running Linux.
Around 7:30pm I decided to break out my laptop and do an impromptu
presentation on what's going on in your computer looking mostly at hardware.
I started by showing the output of dmesg, scrolling through and pointing out
various items like ACPI, memory, and hard drives (sda, sdb, etc).
$ dmesg -w
which is what I call watch, but the man page calls "Wait for new messages".
I then showed what happens when you plug/unplug a mouse and a USB flash
drive. I pointed out that users should be familiar with normal output so
they they can recognize when something abnormal happens.
From there I showed the output of lspci -v which will show the devices
connected to the PCI(e) bus and the kernel module responsible for driving
that piece of hardware.
Using the information from the lspci output, we looked at the kernel module
$ modinfo i915
We skimmed over the different parameters the module can have when loaded.
I showed that udev can automatically load kernel modules by removing the uas
module with rmmod, showing that it was really gone with lsmod, then plugging
in a flash drive and showing that the uas module was loaded.
Finally I showed the output of lsusb, which lists USB devices and their
drivers in a manner similar the lspci.
I didn't get to talking about /proc or /sys which could be a discussion for
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
For kernels with the Meltdown/Specter mitigation's the bugs for the CPU will
be listed.
I wrapped up around 9:45 pm, which surprised me since it wasn't a planned
presentation. We had a number of new people show up, I think all of them
found us on Meetup.
Gus
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Kevin Keane Subscription
2018-06-19 03:37:59 UTC
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And thank you for that great presentation. I learned a lot from it that I didn’t know before.

 
BTW, one oddity: you mentioned to look for the line that indicated “bare metal” booting. I did that on a virtual machine on VMWare, and it also reported “bare metal”. So this indicator may not be 100% reliable.

 
In any case – thanks again!

 
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Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
There wasn't a meeting topic planned, so the meeting started out with
people just mingling and having several different conversations about
different aspects of running Linux.

Around 7:30pm I decided to break out my laptop and do an impromptu
presentation on what's going on in your computer looking mostly at hardware.

I started by showing the output of dmesg, scrolling through and pointing
out various items like ACPI, memory, and hard drives (sda, sdb, etc).

I then showed using dmesg to watch for system activities using -w option:

$ dmesg -w

which is what I call watch, but the man page calls "Wait for new messages".

I then showed what happens when you plug/unplug a mouse and a USB flash
drive. I pointed out that users should be familiar with normal output so
they they can recognize when something abnormal happens.

From there I showed the output of lspci -v which will show the devices
connected to the PCI(e) bus and the kernel module responsible for
driving that piece of hardware.

Using the information from the lspci output, we looked at the kernel
module for the video device (Intel integrated graphics) using modinfo:

$ modinfo i915

We skimmed over the different parameters the module can have when loaded.

I showed that udev can automatically load kernel modules by removing the
uas module with rmmod, showing that it was really gone with lsmod, then
plugging in a flash drive and showing that the uas module was loaded.

Finally I showed the output of lsusb, which lists USB devices and their
drivers in a manner similar the lspci.

I didn't get to talking about /proc or /sys which could be a discussion
for another day. Although I did show the output of cpuinfo:

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

For kernels with the Meltdown/Specter mitigation's the bugs for the CPU
will be listed.

I wrapped up around 9:45 pm, which surprised me since it wasn't a
planned presentation. We had a number of new people show up, I think all
of them found us on Meetup.

Gus


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Kevin Keane Subscription
2018-06-19 03:39:51 UTC
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I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.

 
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Thanks for stepping up in a pinch, Gus! I've heard from a couple of
people who said it went very well.

So...anyone interested in putting together a scheduled presentation for
next month?
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
There wasn't a meeting topic planned, so the meeting started out with people
just mingling and having several different conversations about different
aspects of running Linux.
Around 7:30pm I decided to break out my laptop and do an impromptu
presentation on what's going on in your computer looking mostly at hardware.
I started by showing the output of dmesg, scrolling through and pointing out
various items like ACPI, memory, and hard drives (sda, sdb, etc).
$ dmesg -w
which is what I call watch, but the man page calls "Wait for new messages".
I then showed what happens when you plug/unplug a mouse and a USB flash
drive. I pointed out that users should be familiar with normal output so
they they can recognize when something abnormal happens.
From there I showed the output of lspci -v which will show the devices
connected to the PCI(e) bus and the kernel module responsible for driving
that piece of hardware.
Using the information from the lspci output, we looked at the kernel module
$ modinfo i915
We skimmed over the different parameters the module can have when loaded.
I showed that udev can automatically load kernel modules by removing the uas
module with rmmod, showing that it was really gone with lsmod, then plugging
in a flash drive and showing that the uas module was loaded.
Finally I showed the output of lsusb, which lists USB devices and their
drivers in a manner similar the lspci.
I didn't get to talking about /proc or /sys which could be a discussion for
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
For kernels with the Meltdown/Specter mitigation's the bugs for the CPU will
be listed.
I wrapped up around 9:45 pm, which surprised me since it wasn't a planned
presentation. We had a number of new people show up, I think all of them
found us on Meetup.
Gus
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Tony Su
2018-06-19 15:44:33 UTC
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Am willing to do an openSUSE presentation, touching on more general
things common to other distros...

Should be able to find time to draw up an outline by the end of this
week, any special requests on how to do stuff in an OS (or Desktop of
your choice) is welcome, PM me...

Tony

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I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.
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Thanks for stepping up in a pinch, Gus! I've heard from a couple of
people who said it went very well.
So...anyone interested in putting together a scheduled presentation for
next month?
Post by Randall Shimizu
Just wondering if anyone has any meeting topics or ideas.....?
There wasn't a meeting topic planned, so the meeting started out with people
just mingling and having several different conversations about different
aspects of running Linux.
Around 7:30pm I decided to break out my laptop and do an impromptu
presentation on what's going on in your computer looking mostly at hardware.
I started by showing the output of dmesg, scrolling through and pointing out
various items like ACPI, memory, and hard drives (sda, sdb, etc).
$ dmesg -w
which is what I call watch, but the man page calls "Wait for new messages".
I then showed what happens when you plug/unplug a mouse and a USB flash
drive. I pointed out that users should be familiar with normal output so
they they can recognize when something abnormal happens.
From there I showed the output of lspci -v which will show the devices
connected to the PCI(e) bus and the kernel module responsible for driving
that piece of hardware.
Using the information from the lspci output, we looked at the kernel module
$ modinfo i915
We skimmed over the different parameters the module can have when loaded.
I showed that udev can automatically load kernel modules by removing the uas
module with rmmod, showing that it was really gone with lsmod, then plugging
in a flash drive and showing that the uas module was loaded.
Finally I showed the output of lsusb, which lists USB devices and their
drivers in a manner similar the lspci.
I didn't get to talking about /proc or /sys which could be a discussion for
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
For kernels with the Meltdown/Specter mitigation's the bugs for the CPU will
be listed.
I wrapped up around 9:45 pm, which surprised me since it wasn't a planned
presentation. We had a number of new people show up, I think all of them
found us on Meetup.
Gus
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Tracy Reed
2018-06-19 19:28:58 UTC
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Post by Tony Su
Am willing to do an openSUSE presentation, touching on more general
things common to other distros...
For next month how about we do 45 minutes on openSUSE preceded by...
Post by Tony Su
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I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.
15 minutes of Yubikey. I've always been interested in how these work.

Deal?
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2018-06-20 05:34:07 UTC
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Sounds good to me!

 
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Post by Tony Su
Am willing to do an openSUSE presentation, touching on more general
things common to other distros...
For next month how about we do 45 minutes on openSUSE preceded by...
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Post by Kevin Keane Subscription
I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.
15 minutes of Yubikey. I've always been interested in how these work.

Deal?

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Tony Su
2018-06-21 10:09:08 UTC
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Can make it any length of time....
45 minutes usually can cover openSUSE basics, the type of talk for
instance that would fit into a SCALE slot.

No problem if anyone wants to branch a little into some kind of
specific use or more Desktop related stuff as time permits.

Tony

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Sounds good to me!
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Post by Tony Su
Am willing to do an openSUSE presentation, touching on more general
things common to other distros...
For next month how about we do 45 minutes on openSUSE preceded by...
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I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.
15 minutes of Yubikey. I've always been interested in how these work.
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Randall Shimizu
2018-06-21 11:59:35 UTC
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I would like to see a history of SUSE & OpenSuse
Post by Tony Su
Can make it any length of time....
45 minutes usually can cover openSUSE basics, the type of talk for
instance that would fit into a SCALE slot.
No problem if anyone wants to branch a little into some kind of
specific use or more Desktop related stuff as time permits.
Tony
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Am willing to do an openSUSE presentation, touching on more general
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For next month how about we do 45 minutes on openSUSE preceded by...
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I could talk about how I got my Yubikey to hold my SSH private key. It will likely be either a short 15-minute overview, or long and very boring.
15 minutes of Yubikey. I've always been interested in how these work.
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